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8/30/10 @ 5:06pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Created by: male4622

8/30/10 @ 6:14pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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After having seen the best and worst of party chat, I think that you need to take it back to the way it was. I think models feel pressure to go to party chat and people are just waiting for free shows. I just don't think it's fair to models or users who like to go private.

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why the adminstration removed what Stefano said about that topic....would like to know is point of view.

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seems what Stefano said is a very big secret.

Bally

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Created by: Stefano

9/1/10 @ 7:40am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Yeah seems liek that i did hit issue somone is not ready deal with :D im not sure why it was deleted. cuz it was just opinion nothing insultive or vulgar ...

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Created by: Luk A

9/1/10 @ 12:55pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Yeah seems liek that i did hit issue somone is not ready deal with :D im not sure why it was deleted. cuz it was just opinion nothing insultive or vulgar ...

I'm gossip boy ...post it again
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Created by: alexreed

9/4/10 @ 1:35am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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This is not working. What it amounts to basically is a free show for members. With the hope and I say the word "hope" that the model will get tips or a private show. It's a bad idea and is not working. You are killing the idea of private shows. Second to that you are getting models to expose themselves in a free area. Which is basically against the rules that you have the models agree to when they signup. What kind of company makes models agree to certain rules then goes right against the rules it sets for them. I think you need your heads examined. It is not working as you had planned in your mind.

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Created by: mars10

9/5/10 @ 2:58am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I think the party's are fun and I think they should continue, however if after some doesn't tip at all for 15 min boot him

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Created by: ballycallan

9/5/10 @ 5:18am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I think the party's are fun and I think they should continue, however if after some doesn't tip at all for 15 min boot him

Hmmmm I dont get this , so your idea is let the beggers enjoy free shows for 15 minutes , before they have to move on to the next free show ??

I still dont like these , makes it too easy for the beggers , I have seen a suggestion ( think in str8 forum ) that to enter party chat you should have some credits on your account - I guess its not a guarentee that they will spend those credits , but at least it is a confirmation that the person has bought credits and is old enough to be there !

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Created by: alexreed

9/6/10 @ 1:23am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I thought when everybody is in the same room that was a group chat. As far as the Party chat goes. I don't believe it is a good idea. Been in several models rooms with Party chat started. The models ask for credits in the form of the tips. But hardly anyone is giving tips to the models. Then the models usually do something and everyone in the room gets a free show. The model gets no tips and no private shows out it. So what is the purpose of the Party chat then? The model gives a free show for nothing. With the hopes of maybe getting some tip or a private out of it. Which doesn't happen. The beggars get satisfaction of a free show. But in the end the models are the people that get hurt out of this. I really don't think this is a good idea. The reasons are obvious.

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Created by: cdax19

9/6/10 @ 3:35am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I have mixed feelings about this topic.
On one hand party chat got me to buy credits again. I will not private because it is simply too expensive (with too small of a percentage going to the models). I enjoyed the party chats and I tipped many models.
Now, the smart models make sure the tips are coming in before they get naked-- they set tip totals for specific things and they wait until the total is reached. I have seen several models make alot of tips with this method.
However, the not so smart or naive models who believe the greys,whites and VIPs when they say that the model must show cock first then they will tip --- well they get screwed (not in a good way) I have seen so many members lie to the models and try to con them -- its disgusting.So, these boys I feel sorry for because they aren't in control of their rooms and they get taken advantage of.

Overall I like party chat because it allows me to participate alot more than I would have without it.

And please keep in mind the models are under no obligation to enter party chat. Some of them never go into it and they are still getting regular privates.

Thanks cdax

PS You will NEVER get rid of the beggars no matter what format you use! There were beggars in the rooms long before party chat started.

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Created by: ourjeffie

9/6/10 @ 8:07am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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On one hand party chat got me to buy credits again. I will not private because it is simply too expensive (with too small of a percentage going to the models). I enjoyed the party chats and I tipped many models

You are aware that the same small percentage goes to models when we tip?

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Created by: Matthew Anders

9/6/10 @ 11:39am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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this change will lead to many requests of nudity and little privates, i mean why should a member pay for a private when he can see in freechat what he wants?

Well Said...

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Created by: cdax19

9/6/10 @ 1:46pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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You are aware that the same small percentage goes to models when we tip?

Yes I assumed that to be true, although I have heard people say the models make a higher percentage off tips, but I never really believed that.

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Created by: ourjeffie

9/6/10 @ 9:41pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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The models used to earn a much higher percentage of the tips when we tipped in dollars, but they earn the same small percentage now that we tip in credits

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Created by: wkyken

9/13/10 @ 11:08pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Hong Kong

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There are some models who use Party Chat very well -- one who sets up his privates with it, which I think is a stroke of genius. As he uses it, it's kind of a "preview," and he's hot enough that the privates he sets up with it do follow through AND he still gets tips. That said, in general it's a bad idea, at least from this customer's viewpoint. There are plenty of models with the personality to pull it off, but it's fading in popularity among those I've talked with. I'd be very interested to know what the feedback is in the models' forum -- both male and female.

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Created by: ourjeffie

9/14/10 @ 1:40am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Not saying that it's not a "stroke of genius", but many models now use party chat as a prelude to a private show, and some openly solicit for privates when they are in party chat

Often party chat will end abrupty when a member requests a private. The model leaves party chat, reverts to open room and is immediately taken private, leaving members who have tipped high and dry

The rules for party chat say "no private shows allowed" but in effect it happens all the time. I don't think Flirt4Free anticipated this

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