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Created by: ronnie-uk

2/9/12 @ 10:25am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: London, UK
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I have read all the interesting responses here and in the General Discussions forum topic. The debate there was more 50/50 than here, and I can see why this is such a tricky one for VS.

I argued in favour of whispering. Then someone who I thought was on the same side of the debate said that he wanted to whisper as much as he liked. This was just a matter between him and the model, and he didn't care whether he annoyed anyone else.

That made the debate even more interesting, because there was a paradox. Those who were arguing most strongly for whispering started to weaken their own case.

Even though I think that the occasional whisper can be very useful, those who whisper should at least accept that too much whispering spoils the open chat experience for others. Open Chat works best when the chat is open.

I don't know if the compromise solutions (eg whisper limits) are workable. My suggestion was simply to say: "Don't like all this whispering. Bye". The 2 week ban might help to convey a message like: "Too much whispering can damage your health". That alone might be sufficient to bring benefits.

I am sure I can live without whispering for 2 weeks, and may send the odd extra Inbox message if necessary.

Just my :twocents

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Created by: olddad12

2/9/12 @ 12:01pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: new jersey
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as the starter of this can of worms i am gratefull that flirt is paying attention to everyone concern i do think the comprimise of 5 an 10 limits on whispering can work depending if u are white or gold would work. And than a 1 credit charge for every one after that. thank you for the test run.

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Created by: olddad12

2/9/12 @ 12:13pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: new jersey
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I do use the whisper feature and I will miss it, of course I generally use it when I'm insulting a potential customer, guess I'll just have to keep my rude behavior to myself...I'm sure the models will be happier. :orglaugh

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Created by: grumpnose

2/9/12 @ 12:23pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: where prince charming ruined all the fun
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Well, I do the insults in whisper because I don't want to chase a customer away. If my favorite model isn't making money she is gone and I lose the enjoyment. I'm also too much of a smartass not to comment at all. So it isn't about courage it is about supporting the model, if anyone has a problem with that, well i really don't care, but please in the future don't ascribe motives to people you have no knowledge of.

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Created by: candy-man

2/9/12 @ 12:41pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I will give the site the two weeks to put whispers back in use and if not will never spend another dime here ..i can vote with my money.

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Created by: nastytalker

2/9/12 @ 2:42pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: in your bedroom where you can abuse my hot ass
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i support the decision about the whispers it screws up the room when one person can dominate the performer with a whisper pvt. And that what it is a pvt without pay

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Created by: voyerr

2/9/12 @ 2:46pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Coastal North Carolina-USA
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Brad, I really enjoy whispering to my favorite models, many times comments to help them thru the shift, sometimes helping educate newer models on ways to help focus potential clients on tipping for requests, or ways to teach beggars to show them some respect, etc. If a model finds it interferes with the ambiance in the chat she can always just tell guests not to whisper. I hope after the two week test this privelege will be restored. (I do like your recent change in tipping options.)

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Created by: turp119

2/9/12 @ 2:51pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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i think you should make it something for VIPs. ortherwise leave it alone, rationing them is just as dumb as not having them :twocents

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Created by: mindful

2/9/12 @ 2:52pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Big mistake from my viewpoint. But maybe it will break my habit of coming here

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Created by: rollerr

2/9/12 @ 2:58pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I'm fine with the no whispers thing. If you do decide to put it back in, I like the limit on whispers idea. The Models aren't Psychologists. They don't want to hear how bad your life sucks for the three hours your in their room, not tipping or going Private. :thumbsup

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Created by: suggs

2/9/12 @ 3:06pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Left of centre
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this is another good reason to streamline whispering as it makes other customers uncomfortable when some one is whispering to a model about some one in room if you got a pair of balls just say it to the customer you are talking about instead of hiding behind a whisper

If you prefe insults in open chat search for me in most of the americain models rooms. Insults of beggars / spammers / assholes is all in the open for me.

I have been here long enough to remember a time BEFORE whispers and to be honest - the site was BETTER. People are going on about well whispers lets a customer say something to a model thay dont want everyone else to see - well guess what - the fact that said model has to reply on screen or if room has audio verbally - that pretty much negates most of the whole whisper.

IF they keep whisper I will say as before - keep it for contacting site admin / tech support.

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Created by: candy-man

2/9/12 @ 3:51pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Brad I find it a whole lot easier to tolerate a room with some whispers going on with the model talking to a whisper than to go into a models room that is trying to work 5 or 6 sites and not responding to anyone on this site.

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Created by: phil_usa

2/9/12 @ 3:54pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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...I love it :thumbsup

In all my time here I have never whispered, not even once.

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Created by: w0lfie

2/9/12 @ 4:41pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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While I understand the issues, concerns and problems with the way whispers are used by some people, I have to say that I don't agree with doing away with them totally.

I think a better solution would be to maybe limit the amount of times a user can whisper. By limiting the amount of whispers, you deal with the person that spend their whole time in the room whispering to the model. But, at the same time, you still give the user the freedom to ask or tell the model something, that they might not want the whole room to see (asking about something for a private for example).

I think that whispers can serve a useful purpose, if used the way they were intended. I think that the misuse of them has given them a bad name, and has frustrated a lot of users.

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Created by: ukrich

2/9/12 @ 5:10pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Uk
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Created by: olddad12

2/9/12 @ 6:01pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: ken_in_china

2/9/12 @ 7:33pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Hong Kong
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I'd like to add my vote to reinstate the whispers. If you need to limit them in some way, that's fine, but I wonder if that should be left to each model's discretion, just as they can disable the "gray" chatting.

The worst situation is a full conversation that goes on for more than five or 10 minutes. When a model engages a whisperer that long, then I don't feel welcome in the room, and I tend to move on to someone else.

If you do limit it in some way without the models' discretion, then I would say 10 or 20 whispers in a calendar day, followed by: "Sorry, you've reached your whisper limit for today with this model. Please try again tomorrow."

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Created by: kertus

2/9/12 @ 7:34pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: The Planet Piiiing
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... a sad day

... let's see how lively this place becomes now that the 'dreaded' whisper has been terminated ... chat amongst each other u non whispering blokey blokes, enjoy ur freedom to express ..

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Created by: lone-wolf

2/9/12 @ 7:44pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I guess if we need to say something so important to the model we can go in pvt. I myself enjoy a good dialog in chat with others. I do use whispers but its usually at the preformers request. I know we can all learn to get along if we try. I seen many changes on this site and I personally am amazed at the guiness and creativity it must have taken to improve our chat etc. experience. For instance the " group chat " Who ever thought up that is one smart cookie. I appreciate this site and sincerely say thank you to the people who make it happen.

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Created by: candy-man

2/9/12 @ 7:51pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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From the looks of things I am reading here I do believe that Brad did not take into account that people do not complain about something they do not want changed and everyone complains about something they want changed. My thought being there was probably a large number of customers that was ok with the whisper option that did not comment on it. Maybe he should have had a survey with specific questions concerning this. The wheel that squeaks the most gets the oil.

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