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Created by: greeklad

8/16/10 @ 1:40pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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this change will lead to many requests of nudity and little privates, i mean why should a member pay for a private when he can see in freechat what he wants?

I pay for a lot of privates here. But I will stop paying if I find that other members, the beggars and the freeloaders, are getting free shows.

This is not a good idea.

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Created by: mark_e

8/17/10 @ 6:09pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: canada
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great idea when will this start..cant wait

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Created by: gregdecarlo

8/19/10 @ 6:46pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Baltimore on east coast of the USA

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SADLY SOME MODELS DO NOT DESERVE TIPS BECAUSE THERE PVTS SUCK! THE TIPS IDEA COMES FROM ANOTHER SITE AND MODELS THERE SHOW COCK. I THINK THAT'S WHAT PVTS ARE FOR AND THE GUYS WHO HAVE BEEN BEGGING FOR YEARS CONTINUE TO BEG AND NEVER TIP! HOW DO MODELS KNOW WHICH GUYS WILL TIP THEM IF THEY SHOW? I DO NOT LIKE THE TIP IDEA BUT USED IT TODAY FOR MY FAVORITE MODEL WHO JUST CAME BACK. IT DOES NOT COST AS MUCH AS THE OTHER SITE AND IF IT HELPS "Models also get monetary compensation for each gift they receive" THEN IT IS A GOOD IDEA! BUT YOU ALSO NEED TO SET SOME GROUND RULES AS TO WHAT MODELS CAN SHOW AND HOW LONG & HOW OFTEN! AND ALSO WHO CAN ASK TO SEE A PEEK? MEMBERS ONLY OR BOTH MEMBERS AND NON MEMBERS? I THOUGHT SHOWING BARE ASS IN OPEN IS OKAY BUT NOT COCK, BUT SOME MODELS DO NOT EVEN WANT TO STAND UP TO SHOW THERE BODY EVEN IF THEY HAVE ON CLOTHES OR UNDIES, SOME SAY THEY BORED BUT THEY JUST SIT THERE WHILE OTHERS ARE JERKING THERE HARD COCKS OR TALKING AND SOCIALIZING OR HAVING FUN.
*NOTE: THE RULES CAN BE SHOWN ON MODELS CHAT PAGE LIKE THE 'WELCOME MESSAGE AND THE MESSAGE TO TURN ON/OFF THE NON MEMBERS(THAT ANNOYINGLY POPS UP IF YOU CHANGE THE WINDOW SIZE)THAT ONLY VIP CAN DO CLICK HERE TO UPGRADE'

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Created by: Arcady

8/20/10 @ 9:22pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Well maybe this will be good for the models who are happy with little but very bad for the ones that like to do things in pvt.. and do their best there.. so I'm not for it . I give my best but all in pvt..

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Created by: wkyken

8/20/10 @ 11:30pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Hong Kong

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I think this issue comes down to how much the model depends on privates for his or her income. In general, those who do well are not likely to give for free when the income from privates is good. For models just starting out or going through a dry spell (so to speak), it might be useful. I think a trial might be a good idea, and then see after maybe two or three weeks if it's helpful to some models.

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Created by: wheelsup

8/25/10 @ 12:36am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Ohio USA
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I have to respect the opinions of Arcady amd Anwar. Both of these gentlemen conduct themselves well in their open chat and are indeed spectacular in private. They do not need this concept at all. And as a customer I would not want to share that experience with another chatter. They are indeed special.

If it is to work, it would have to be a separate category where it is clear this "Take a Peek" is allowed and encouraged. And maybe handled like Group Chat in that it takes you out of the regular chat area.

Having said that, not sure I would use the option as a customer.

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Created by: male4622

8/26/10 @ 6:57pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: United States
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I will have to see what happens for sure, but, after seeing things here early on, I'd have to say that the new "Party Chat" thing is just o.k.

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Created by: male4622

8/26/10 @ 7:48pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: United States
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I pay for a lot of privates here. But I will stop paying if I find that other members, the beggars and the freeloaders, are getting free shows.

This is not a good idea.

It does cheapen the private completely.

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Created by: nathanjones1

8/26/10 @ 7:56pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I'm sure all kinds of furstrating situations will come up for awhile with this new system. For example, I was in one party room...the guy was jacking and getting lots of tips...he said he was close to cumming...someone enters the room and takes him pvt....all the guys who had spent a bunch of tips on him getting him to that point were naturally irritated. I'm sure that the best models will find ways to make it work, but in the meantime it will not always be a positive thing.

Plus, I've already seen plenty of people go into non-party chat rooms and tell the model that "anything goes" etc.

However, I do credit Flirt with listening to the suggestion that the party chat rooms have a special designation. THANKS!!!

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Created by: tickler335

8/26/10 @ 8:03pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I ran into the problem of having credits but not being able to tip a model in a Tipping Show. I kept getting booted to the buy credits page. I called customer service and they told me to clear my cookies. I did. It worked. ONCE. Every time I wanted to tip a model I had to clear my cookies which meant resetting a lot of websites that I use quite often. That's just not worth it. I tried two different browsers with the same result. I don't think it's going to work, honestly. Too many freeloaders will let others pay their way. Good try though.

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Created by: paperpunch09

8/26/10 @ 8:15pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: USA
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Seems like the non party rooms have little traffic----I mean why pay 60 or more cpm for a private when Peter Peckerhead is showing his goods a few rooms down for less credits?

Also, seems like there is less conversation in these rooms other than X # of creds for this and X # of creds for that.

Maybe I am judging this too early--- it maybe a success but from what I have seen it makes flirt seem cheap

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Created by: jasonat47

8/26/10 @ 10:07pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Richmond Virginia
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As A VIP Member, I Have A Very Mixed Reaction About The New Tipping Shows, It Will Actually Help The Newer Models On Here, The Veteran / More Experienced Models Will Hate It, My Personal Complaint (If Any) Is That It Cheapens The VIP Membership, Maybe Give A VIP Member Specified Tipping Privledges Or Something, Better Yet, Please Allow VIPS To Re-Watch Their Own Videos That They Originally Purchased, I Think It Doesn't Make Sense I'm Only Allowed To Re-Watch My Own Videos Only Once For 24hours Maximum....My Personal Motivation To Pvt Will Change, Probably By Watching How A Model Reacts While Doing A Tipping Show, The Wizard Is No Longer Behind The Curtain, He's Been Physically / Sexually Exposed, And We Can See What It Looks Like.....I Just Have A Major Concern Regarding My VIP That's All.....Non-VIP members SHOULD NOT Be Allowed To Go Into Tipping Shows, Period!
Thanks
Jasonat47

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Created by: jasonat47

8/26/10 @ 10:10pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Richmond Virginia
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Oh, And One More Idea, Maybe Have It On Special Holidays, Or Give VIPS Holiday Credits (Happy Labor Day is just around the corner)

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Created by: Billy Jazz & Johnny Tylr

8/27/10 @ 9:34am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I gotta admire the guys at f4f for their ingenius and cutting edge buisness savvy in the in industry, but this isn't going to help models like myself. Kudos for the idea though.

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Created by: Penney Z

8/27/10 @ 1:23pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I'm sure all kinds of furstrating situations will come up for awhile with this new system. For example, I was in one party room...the guy was jacking and getting lots of tips...he said he was close to cumming...someone enters the room and takes him pvt....all the guys who had spent a bunch of tips on him getting him to that point were naturally irritated. I'm sure that the best models will find ways to make it work, but in the meantime it will not always be a positive thing.

The situation you described couldn't have happened, because you can't take a model private if he's in a Party Room.

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Created by: nathanjones1

8/27/10 @ 1:40pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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The situation you described couldn't have happened, because you can't take a model private if he's in a Party Room.

The customer asked to take the model pvt, and the model said yes and switched out of party mode. So yes, the situation I described DID happen.

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Created by: Hadess

8/27/10 @ 9:32pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Created by: Danny Skye

8/29/10 @ 9:08pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Just got done my first party! Amazing! Why didnt you guys think of this sooner???

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Created by: paperpunch09

8/29/10 @ 11:19pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: USA
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Well I saw a group of 3 models in one room say X number of credits for fucking and when the tips were given the models cum instead thus not being honest.

I was watching not saying anything and then the members who tipped were discussing how they felt ripped off and I chimed in that it was only a matter of time before that happened.

A member was saying how could I and other members who didn't tip complain and I said I never claimed to have tipped but that it was bound to happen sometime.

Basically, this group of models lied to get tips and people felt cheated who had tipped. I was not one of them because it is RISKY and I avoid un-necessary risks.

I know it is at the model's discretion but lying to get tips makes this look more and more sleazy.

Are you tracking which members make demands but never tip??

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Created by: ourjeffie

8/30/10 @ 1:29am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Brisbane Australia, home of the 2032 Olympic Games
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I'm sure all kinds of furstrating situations will come up for awhile with this new system. For example, I was in one party room ... the guy was jacking and getting lots of tips ... he said he was close to cumming ... someone enters the room and takes him pvt ... all the guys who had spent a bunch of tips on him getting him to that point were naturally irritated

I've seen this happen a number of times in a number of different rooms - the model is in Party Chat but a member asks for a private show then takes the model private

Private shows are not supposed to be possible in Party Chat, but with the press of a button a model can leave Party Chat and return to open room, then a member can immediately take the model private. The transition takes only a couple of seconds

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