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Created by: pavelek

2/15/12 @ 7:53pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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so you was here before whispering, my hero :bowdown

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Created by: olddad12

2/15/12 @ 8:10pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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i so far love the rooms that are not whispering we have a nice flow without them, an for all the people that are pro whisper , the vast majority dont even know how to whisper an care less about it. all they do know it does interupt the flow of the chat

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Created by: asti

2/15/12 @ 8:46pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I guess we just stop using logic and start making up statistics

i so far love the rooms that are not whispering

There is a ban going on so aren't all rooms not whispering? (Oh darn I was thinking logically.)

we have a nice flow without them

Personally never had a problem with them.

an for all the people that are pro whisper , the vast majority dont even know how to whisper an care less about it. all they do know it does interupt the flow of the chat

I don't even know where to begin with that but it appears the vast majority of pro whispers are accused of not knowing how to whisper and that they know it does interrupt the flow of chat. Huh? Based on what facts I must ask. Again facts not opinions.

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Created by: kertus

2/15/12 @ 9:09pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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::quote_begin:You'd be back to watching from the sidelines as the invisible man controls the conversation, as it happens all too frequently.

Heres a hilarious comment ... you'll b back ta watchin' a visible man control the conversation ... personally i'd rather lose out ta mr invisible, that way i'd never know jus' how pathetic i really am ... works on the principle of the unknown patheticness factor ... (((x/p)*1.8675)/3)

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Created by: kickster

2/15/12 @ 9:39pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Created by: mastera2p

2/15/12 @ 9:54pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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After talking to some people and different performers, I think it is fair to say both sides present a fair point.

My view:

1) A model should be able to allow or disallow whispers
2) A model should be allowed to only allow VIP whispering

You should definitely flirt in rooms. It encourages others to open up.

However, I don't like giving free loaders a free perv show. Also, models ask questions like ASL - and I don't want to tell everyone! But happy to tell the model.

:twocents

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Created by: dudley_do_ride

2/15/12 @ 10:50pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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OK I made an agreement to desist posting here with ronnie-uk, I've honored it for lo these many days, but I feel a short summary / argument outline is actually consistent with the agreement I made. So here ya go and bye again:

The Dispute = Freedom Approach

A. Establish that the issue involves subjective judgement of reality.

B. Establish that significant numbers strongly advocate both views.

C. Show that allowing freedom of choice does not HARM any party. (irritation is not enough)

D. Allow individual freedom to choose ( invoke )

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Created by: amanda_fucking_palmer

2/16/12 @ 12:14am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Sure bring back with whisper with 2 whispers per model in a 24 hour period... prevents entire conversations in whisper... 2 questions should be enough to lead up to a private show.

Or

Pay Per Whisper 5 cpw

hows that?

sounds just like the usual 'studio' tripe i would expect
if you are going to play in here with customers you should identify yourself properly i think

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Created by: amanda_fucking_palmer

2/16/12 @ 12:17am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Heres a hilarious comment ... you'll b back ta watchin' a visible man control the conversation ... personally i'd rather lose out ta mr invisible, that way i'd never know jus' how pathetic i really am ... works on the principle of the unknown patheticness factor ... (((x/p)*1.8675)/3)

bah(tm) stop that my love

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Created by: amanda_fucking_palmer

2/16/12 @ 12:19am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Save your Freudian garbage. Nice argument there (RASP)

Now Now Tricky_Duck ... kiss your gurl for me will ya? (giggles)

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Created by: kertus

2/16/12 @ 12:21am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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bah(tm) stop that my love

...was it the Math?

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Created by: amanda_fucking_palmer

2/16/12 @ 12:21am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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[Cynic mode]

Isn;t it rather a coincidence that the whisper trial comes not long after the site started allowing models to have twitter feeds?

[/Cynic mode]

LOL #cynicmode (giggles)(banshee.like)

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Created by: amanda_fucking_palmer

2/16/12 @ 12:26am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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so you was here before whispering, my hero :bowdown

ouuuuuuu sarcasm (Drips_Sarcasm) one of my favorite old names uhhhahahahahahahauuuuuu (eerie.french)(laugh) (tm)the Girl

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Created by: amanda_fucking_palmer

2/16/12 @ 12:28am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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...was it the Math?

no the (self.depreciation) you are a grand man (soft.smile)(hugs)

(surrenders)to(bleary.eyes)and(needed.sleep)

LATEX all and (sweet.dreams)to Kertus and Suggs

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Created by: kertus

2/16/12 @ 12:34am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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no the (self.depreciation) you are a grand man (soft.smile)(hugs)

(surrenders)to(bleary.eyes)and(needed.sleep)

LATEX all and (sweet.dreams)to Kertus and Suggs

Awww thanks Mandy .. But ya know it's only a confident man that can so self defficate himself and still smile ...

Ps ... Latex makes me sweat ...

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Created by: pumaman

2/16/12 @ 12:54am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Perhaps, but maybe still another customer shares the same question? The open chat is for chatting, not for private conversations.

Brad

I love the "No Whisper" rule. Open chat gets very disruptive with lengthy whisper conversations. Privates are there for a purpose.

Another related issue:
"F4F models chatting with other F4F partner sites' users while in F4F room".
By this I mean models chatting with users that access F4F rooms from 3rd Party Sites, I believe F4F's business partners.

True F4F room users have no way of tracking these conversations. Only see the model typing in like crazy for long periods of time and we don't see anything posted in the room. Or the models follow those conversations with gestures, smiles or body language while ignoring native F4F room users completely.

I know this maybe be a business model to generate extra revenue but... any way of having any regulation on this situation?

Thanks!

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Created by: superstud

2/16/12 @ 5:12am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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AFP has a great idea: Whispering allowed but at 5 credits per word. Actually the "two whispers allowed per model's room per 24 hr period" is a better compromise. You've got to admit, this thread is nearly as entertaining as watching a political debate ! lol :orglaugh

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Created by: asti

2/16/12 @ 6:55am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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The quote below is from Brad himself in the thread "Models Chatting with Users From F4F Partner Sites." It is in the Technical Support forum and I thought it applied here.

Best to frequent rooms where the performer gives you proper attention to discourage that sort of behavior.

Simply asking Brad, couldn't your statement be applied here?

If a member wishes to discourage whisper's usage to a model they can easily leave that room and email the model their concerns. Then the decision is in the model's hands. The model's decision will be evident by what they allow in their room and it is a room-by-room choice. Then, just as Brad stated if the performer doesn't grant the request it is "best to frequent rooms where the model gives you proper attention." This can go either way on the whisper subject. If someone likes whispering but they are in room of a performer who does not then they abide by the model's rules. And if they try to whisper the model ignores said whisper. It really is this simple.

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Created by: asti

2/16/12 @ 7:11am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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AFP has a great idea: Whispering allowed but at 5 credits per word....You've got to admit, this thread is nearly as entertaining as watching a political debate ! lol :orglaugh

Actually, that was Kickster's idea. Amanda was commenting on his quote.

And yes, though frustrating at times I like this discussion it has been weeks since I've seen a debate. :winkwink

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Created by: slvlasl-l

2/16/12 @ 7:33am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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okay, okay got it

challenge the coders, tax the servers

bring whispering back but put math into it, like kertythekoala suggested. perhaps only allow a certain number of whispers in a whisper string. or x amount of time. COMPROMISE IS A CHALLENGE

Other_Room_Member: Hi model, my name is OpenBob
Whisperer: (Model) do you like to rub peanut butter on your nipples?
Model: LOL
Whisperper: (Model) how many jars do you have today? i'm feeling freaky...
Other_Room_Member: Hi model, how are you today?
Model: six, let's goooooooooooooo
Other_Room_Member: huh?
Whisperer: (Model)ok, bb, brb lemme get some credits
Other_Room_Member: if you don't talk to me, i'm going to sulk and leave, because it's impossible to beat it to you in free if you aren't talking directly to me
Model: ok bb, ty
Whisperer: (Model) goodness, i can't wait to see peanut butter in action
Whisperer: (Model) Say, do you have grape jelly as well?
SYSTEM: (Whisperer) **You have reached the allowed number of consecutive whispers. Please join the room conversation! You will be able to whisper again in 30 minutes. Or VIPS can purchase a 10 pack of anytime whispers for 500 credits to keep that special conversation going!!**

Brought to you by the fiveoh that pulled mrsmiley over yesterday LULZ :orglaugh

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