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Created by: jonny.bravo

9/2/10 @ 6:46am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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ahhh Brandon Haze.....L

L you ask a question and they are teasing you, but you wouldn't be the first male model. Perhaps it is the insecurity cause by the usually well worked out body's of most male models that is causing this odd reactions. I for sure would not let mine girl look at male model here for too long, else she may start to demand I should workout more but gym is not a place for computer geek is it? lol :orglaugh

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I think it would be romantic if 2 models would find true love in here

. But coming on chat in any girls room and say; Hey babe I m a model here too I got 21 incher see mine vods is usually not the best thing to do. Members get protective and start trashing the poor 21incher, the girl gets distracted, worse case is when she actually starts to daydream about 21 her big smile gives it away, members notice that,get even more nervous, its a "mucho macho" behavior and chaos that follows.

You would think that employee of VS would get a discount for going pvt. Same as you work as stewardess and can get cheap flights

, maybe in future you be getting free coupons

yeeey :D

don't you just love stewardesses bless them, its the flying that changes them they are usually very skilled and have a calming effect. I recommend a stewardess to any girl or boy

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9/2/10 @ 11:07am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I really dont like the party chat at all!

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Created by: brooklynboy718

9/2/10 @ 11:30pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Good point, might be hard to enforce; but just having the rule "on the books" so to speak might be enough for performers to point to it and say "this is why I don't just do ____".

Brad

and why is it not okay for a model to simply say "i don't want to"???? we see it all the type when the request is for feet or face or something that's not against the rules....why not keep that precedent but not fine models if they're naked and happen to open their legs the wrong way....flirting and teasing go hand in hand

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Created by: brooklynboy718

9/2/10 @ 11:30pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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i find it amusing to hear the members opinions on how the models feel when 99% of them have no idea. although i can see the points all sides make it is important to remember a couple of things....1) models have the option of how they wish to earn their pay and as we all know options are a good thing 2) members also have the option of avoiding party rooms if they feel it "cheapens" the model AND they have the option to request a pvt so not to "let everyone get off to their spending" and 3) i think this would eliminate some of the short pvts for guys who just want a quick flash, as previously models were restricted from doing/showing certain things in open (i.e. previously if u wanted to see a models pussy u'd have to take her pvt for a min or 2 where as now you can tip the model and it keeps members from vacating the room while shes in pvt) 4) i don't know what the rules for grays are at the moment but they should not be able to chat (give them a message to register when they try to chat) and give them a 60 second time limit on ogling 5) you should have a credit card on file and have made at least 1 purchase to be eligible (doesn't need to be a large purchase, just a good faith showing) although this im kind of on the fence 6)who said you still cant develop relationships? who said you cant enjoy some nice one on one time? even models in party mode, unless they are in the middle of a performance, will change to pvt mode on request....personally i think its nice that a model can accept tips in open and make some money while waiting for a pvt vs just laying there hoping someone takes her pvt......7) since models will have an extra source of income available, they can spend more time in open with ALL of us....how many times has a model had between 1-3 pvts during an 8 hr shift???? great for the model but not so great for others who want to see her that day, now she has the option to be available for all 8) totally must institute the ability for a model to ban as some members are just straight up rude and obnoxious while not having tipped a cent, but at the same time there should be oversight to keep models from getting carried away and finally 9) what the hell is wrong with you guys????? its a freaking PARTY....have some dam fun lol

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Created by: el_sheriff

9/10/10 @ 4:30pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Bumped for another member to read :helpme

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Created by: lovejunky

9/11/10 @ 8:03am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Party chat is rubbish.

1. The video is a small size. Privates are near full screen.
2. Its not spontaneous fun like other sites where tips and 'fun' can happen anytime.
3. I don't even want to go into rooms with party chat on as I feel obliged to tip even if I was just intending to browse around / get to know someone new.
4. Having to change modes all the time between party chat and private available is silly. It disturbs a relaxed flow of events.
5. Models can be fined for showing various things in 'free'. Models are encouraged to show all in 'party chat'. Crazy situation.

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Created by: debian

9/11/10 @ 10:38am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. At first, I didn't like it and did not see the point. However I've now seen several models make some good coin from it, there are a lot of generous tippers though I've never tallied up the end result I'd say the girls make just as much, if not more than a private show would have.

There are many who are concerned about freeloaders, I cant say that's a huge concern for me because you'll always have those regardless of what you do. Best I can think of is to block greys from joining in on the fun.

There is one tweak I do think that should be put in place though, getting rid off the preset tipping rates. Right now I have several credits sitting on my account and there really isn't anything I can do with them because it's less than 25 credits. These credits aren't doing me any good sitting there so I might as well through them at a model that manages to put a smile on my face.

Anyways, that's my $0.02

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Created by: suggs

9/11/10 @ 1:29pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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5. Models can be fined for showing various things in 'free'. Models are encouraged to show all in 'party chat'. Crazy situation.

Taken from a posting by Brad a few days before Party rooms went online

Policy Changes:
- Premiere rooms will be open to all customer types
- Nudity will be allowed in all rooms at the performer discretion. No masturbation, insertion or orgasms.
- Gifting in the chat will be re-named to TIPPING to make it easier to understand

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Created by: Marilyn Martini

9/11/10 @ 2:11pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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There are many who are concerned about freeloaders, I cant say that's a huge concern for me because you'll always have those regardless of what you do. Best I can think of is to block greys from joining in on the fun.

If there is no host for a parasite to live off of, it will inevitably die.

some more :twocents

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Created by: jonny.bravo

9/11/10 @ 5:57pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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If there is no host for a parasite to live off of, it will inevitably die.

some more :twocents

you are a wise woman :thumbsup

Still greys are the future no greys no new members, no new members less $, less $ less models, less models less fun, less fun less members ect. this all started because there was lesser new members. flirt used to be the place to hangout , and now no matter how many competitions they trow out yearly its not the place anymore.

If it gets worse there will be no reason for new guy's to come in here. Sure the existing member's probably will stay loyal to their girls im sure one can wank till late 70's, knowing that average member age is, I think, 40, 45ish so one can still make a bunch on that. but if new member get better deal elsewhere one can forget growing as a company and if you not growing you going backwards.

The whole business changed so drastically it almost feels like Bush was making the decisions. o_O

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Created by: kertus

9/11/10 @ 8:37pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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If there is no host for a parasite to live off of, it will inevitably die.

some more :twocents

aaawww poor parasite .... makes me feel kinda vulnerable!!???

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Created by: discovolante

9/12/10 @ 5:07am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Not that anybody's noticed or cared, but I've been gone for a few weeks, and only have I recently learned what this party chat is all about. I have seen it used both successfully and unsuccessfully by various models. I've talked to them about what they like and don't like about it. Forgive me for not going through 13 pages of this thread. If I ask questions which have been previously answered, or mention something that has already been talked about at length, just go ahead and ignore that part of this post.

Overall, I think the party chat is a good idea. It allows models and members to work together towards each others benefit. In one show, a couple of models decided to go into party chat in their own rooms and have phone sex during the party chat. Both models benefited from having members rally to get enough credits to watch them have phone sex together. It was a pretty sweet show, I must say. It also got around the problem of models who work in different studios or states. Everybody enjoyed themselves, and both models made serious bank.

I don't quite understand why greys are now allowed in Premiere chat. I don't see how that is connected to party chat at all.

I think we need to start building a culture of gratitude around here by making sure that users who can't or don't tip at least be encouraged to THANK those who do. Honestly, I think that kind of courtesy may lead to higher profits for the models.

Also, if this is going to be a permanent thing, perhaps having a channel where users can talk to each other about the models in open chat would be nice. Some place where registered members can try and rally people to certain parties. It could have a preview window that cycles through various model channels. Models not allowed. I only say this because it's typically considered rude to go and talk about other models while you're in a model's room. The success of a party does seem connected to how many people are in it. If they could be rallied from a neutral room, that would not be as rude as just going into Model A's room and saying, "Hey! Check out Model B in Party chat!"

If this post seems scattered in thought, I apologize. I wrote it at 4 AM with no sleep.

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Created by: jonny.bravo

9/12/10 @ 5:35am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thats a great idea Disco, of course models have member accounts too so they will see you "channeling" anyway. But not seeing it in the main chat is great idea :thumbsup

make nice sneaky code for that and off we go

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Created by: ourjeffie

9/12/10 @ 6:30am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Also, if this is going to be a permanent thing, perhaps having a channel where users can talk to each other about the models in open chat would be nice. Some place where registered members can try and rally people to certain parties. It could have a preview window that cycles through various model channels. Models not allowed. I only say this because it's typically considered rude to go and talk about other models while you're in a model's room. The success of a party does seem connected to how many people are in it. If they could be rallied from a neutral room, that would not be as rude as just going into Model A's room and saying, "Hey! Check out Model B in Party chat!"

I will visit the models I choose to visit, I don't want to be "rallied", thank you

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Created by: ourjeffie

9/12/10 @ 6:32am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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of course models have member accounts too so they will see you "channeling" anyway

I would say that the majority of models are not members

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Created by: timmy000

9/12/10 @ 9:47am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: USA
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My feedback on tipping shows. It has made me spend more money but so far I would say that money is better spent on private shows and the free loaders with their constant demands really tick off the models and annoy those who are tipping.

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Created by: discovolante

9/13/10 @ 3:15am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Oklahoma
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I will visit the models I choose to visit, I don't want to be "rallied", thank you

Nobody would be forcing you to go to a model you don't like, but surely you can see the benefit of being able to talk to other members in a room that's 'neutral' territory

I believe somebody complained that the window was too small in party chat. I've thought it over, and perhaps a larger window would make party chat more enjoyable. As far as 'freeloaders' making demands of the models, the models are of course not obligated to give into the demands of non-tippers.

One thing I've noticed lately is that a lot of models set large goals to get shows going, but give no small incentive to actually earn the big prize. I know I'm approaching beggar territory by saying this, but it's been my opinion that this job is basically sales. Getting to your goal in small increments is much easier than just blurting out a large number and hoping you'll reach it. On the off chance a model reads this, perhaps offering a boob flash for 25c and an ass flash with panties down for 50c would help you get to your larger goal of putting on the show you know everyone in party chat would like to see.

That has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, just some sales advice off the top of my head...

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Created by: ourjeffie

9/13/10 @ 5:56am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Nobody would be forcing you to go to a model you don't like, but surely you can see the benefit of being able to talk to other members in a room that's 'neutral' territory

No, it would be of no benefit to me, in fact it probably would make me tend to avoid the models whose rooms I was being exhorted to visit

Perhaps some mindless people need to be "rallied", but I will continue to visit the models I choose to visit. I'm really not interested in other peoples' opinions of models, I prefer to make up my own mind

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Created by: tom_s

9/13/10 @ 2:01pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Part of Disco's comments: "it's typically considered rude to go and talk about other models while you're in a model's room. The success of a party does seem connected to how many people are in it. If they could be rallied from a neutral room, that would not be as rude as just going into Model A's room and saying, "Hey! Check out Model B in Party chat!"

- MY reaction to scumbags who do this will continue to be posting to the said scumbag, in the model's room that he is trying to promote, something such as: "Hey, _________, this model doesn't need your pimping him in ______'s chat room. STAY the FUCK OUT."

- Have done it a few times, with the scumbag suddenly becoming very quiet.

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Created by: ourjeffie

9/13/10 @ 10:57pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Two wrongs don't make a right, Tom

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